mythor.net: Kevin Rudd says gay kids wouldn’t worry him.
hails
· 2 years ago
i'm a queermosexual and i still like a good polling *snicker* :D
go team kevin! *cheerleads* even if this doesn't mean gay marriage, it may mean civil unions! wheeee! *dancedancedance*
Milorad
· 2 years ago
It should be noted that there's a substantial number of gay Liberal supporters. They're people who understand that decisions about gay marriage aren't made by governments.
If the people want gay marriage, they'll get it, but until that point, no politician will end the discrimination.
Intelligent voters regardless of sexuality will vote based on the policies their chosen leader might actually be able to implement.
So, given the nature of the pink dollar and the fact that a lot of homosexuals aren't particularly interested in what Labor will do for the kids they're not going to have, a lot of them are quite logically inclined toward voting Liberal and lining their already full pockets.
For the professional gay man with no dependants eating away the paycheque and a steady male partner with no glass ceiling on their income, life is actually better under a Liberal 'feed-the-rich' government.
I wonder if Hillsong realise that.
Mythor
· 2 years ago
Who makes the decision if not the Government? They're the ones who have to change the legislation to make it happen.
The people do want gay marriage, or don't care if there's gay marriage. It's a minority that find this a major issue at this point.
Also, some homosexuals do still want children. One of the things standing in the way of adoption, for instance, is that the law doesn't allow homosexual couples to adopt in some instances I believe. Whilst it's true that many homosexuals don't want children it's certainly not true of all of them!
Milorad
· 2 years ago
Keyword: some... You're smart, you know this game is about majority numbers.
As for who makes the decision: voters do. If the government got wind that most people would vote positively on gay marriage, you bet it would be a headline policy.
Don't kid yourself, the opinion that most people don't care is wrong, they're just not up in arms about it because there's no danger pollies will enact it.
Pollies are whores in the truest sense. They will do whatever you want, if it'll win a vote. The fact that it isnt even on the table as a policy should tell you what people want.
Mythor
· 2 years ago
The fact that it's not on the table as a policy has more to do with various religious pressure groups than public opinion. The fact that "marriage in all but name" is part of Labor policy proves that the public is generally supportive or apathetic when it comes to the issue. I agree that "the m-word" is much more divisive. But for every person "not up in arms about it because there's no danger pollies will enact it" there's another not up in arms because there's no chance pollies will support it. It swings both ways...
Renegade
· 2 years ago
I am an intelligent, honours qualified Scientist who is now a Paramedic for the NSW Ambulance Service. I have a single- income mortgage and the hassle of ever-increasing interest rates. Without trying to big-note myself, I have achieved a lot in my 25 years. As a lesbian identified woman, who has in fact been "married" to another woman (who hates putting the " " around married) I completely understand PM Kevin Rudd's hesitation to make gay marriage legal. While I acknowledge the Pollie who puts gay-marriage first gets a tick under the 'pro' column, climate change and the economy are still ahead of my own self-centered desires to be legally recognised as an equal member of society. However, I feel inertia and public pressure will inevitably put too much pressure on the PM to ignore and slowly but surely our rights will be acknowledged. My employers are exceptionally fair when it comes to maternity and carers leave. While I agree times are changing and it's about time gay rights are forced into the spotlight, I also recognise that the PM must act in what he feels is the greater good for the Country. Once the fear factor is removed, I think Australians as a whole will agree that the gay and lesbian community as a whole has so much to offer this amazing country of ours. I only feel pity for the people who think I should be proud of all I have achieved, only to discover I am a lesbian and suddenly everything is discounted. My parents couldn't be prouder of me, and to be honest, in addition to my own happiness, that's all that matters.
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go team kevin! *cheerleads* even if this doesn't mean gay marriage, it may mean civil unions! wheeee! *dancedancedance*
If the people want gay marriage, they'll get it, but until that point, no politician will end the discrimination.
Intelligent voters regardless of sexuality will vote based on the policies their chosen leader might actually be able to implement.
So, given the nature of the pink dollar and the fact that a lot of homosexuals aren't particularly interested in what Labor will do for the kids they're not going to have, a lot of them are quite logically inclined toward voting Liberal and lining their already full pockets.
For the professional gay man with no dependants eating away the paycheque and a steady male partner with no glass ceiling on their income, life is actually better under a Liberal 'feed-the-rich' government.
I wonder if Hillsong realise that.
Who makes the decision if not the Government? They're the ones who have to change the legislation to make it happen.
The people do want gay marriage, or don't care if there's gay marriage. It's a minority that find this a major issue at this point.
Also, some homosexuals do still want children. One of the things standing in the way of adoption, for instance, is that the law doesn't allow homosexual couples to adopt in some instances I believe. Whilst it's true that many homosexuals don't want children it's certainly not true of all of them!
As for who makes the decision: voters do. If the government got wind that most people would vote positively on gay marriage, you bet it would be a headline policy.
Don't kid yourself, the opinion that most people don't care is wrong, they're just not up in arms about it because there's no danger pollies will enact it.
Pollies are whores in the truest sense. They will do whatever you want, if it'll win a vote. The fact that it isnt even on the table as a policy should tell you what people want.
I agree that "the m-word" is much more divisive. But for every person "not up in arms about it because there's no danger pollies will enact it" there's another not up in arms because there's no chance pollies will support it. It swings both ways...
As a lesbian identified woman, who has in fact been "married" to another woman (who hates putting the " " around married) I completely understand PM Kevin Rudd's hesitation to make gay marriage legal. While I acknowledge the Pollie who puts gay-marriage first gets a tick under the 'pro' column, climate change and the economy are still ahead of my own self-centered desires to be legally recognised as an equal member of society.
However, I feel inertia and public pressure will inevitably put too much pressure on the PM to ignore and slowly but surely our rights will be acknowledged. My employers are exceptionally fair when it comes to maternity and carers leave.
While I agree times are changing and it's about time gay rights are forced into the spotlight, I also recognise that the PM must act in what he feels is the greater good for the Country.
Once the fear factor is removed, I think Australians as a whole will agree that the gay and lesbian community as a whole has so much to offer this amazing country of ours.
I only feel pity for the people who think I should be proud of all I have achieved, only to discover I am a lesbian and suddenly everything is discounted. My parents couldn't be prouder of me, and to be honest, in addition to my own happiness, that's all that matters.